De måske egnede

De måske egnede A Haunting Story Of Childhood Travail And Hope Strange Things Are Happening At The Biehl School When This Elite Academy Opens Its Doors To A Group Of Orphans And Reform School Rejects, Kids At The End Of The System S Tether But The School Is Run By A Peculiar Set Of Rules, In Which Every Minute Is Regimented And Controlled The Children Soon Suspect That They Are Guinea Pigs In A Bizarre Social Experiment, And That Their Only Hope Of Escape Is To Break Through A Dangerous Threshold Of Time And Space

Peter H eg was born in Copenhagen, Denmark Before becoming a writer, he worked variously as a sailor, ballet dancer, and actor He published his first novel, A History of Danish Dreams 1988 , to positive reviews However, it was Smilla s Sense of Snow 1992 , a million copy best seller, that earned H eg immediate and international literary celebrity His books have been published in than th

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  • Paperback
  • 288 pages
  • De måske egnede
  • Peter Høeg
  • English
  • 05 October 2018
  • 9780312427115

10 thoughts on “De måske egnede

  1. says:

    This book has haunted me over the years I ve seen it a dozen times in used book stores and at library book sales and I finally decided to read it I liked the author s Smilla s Sense of Snow well, it was OK I read it long before I started writing GR reviews So I decided to give Borderliners a try.It s a fairly simple story line set in Copenhagen in the mid 1970 s The book is translated from the Danish Three kids, two boys and a girl, age 14 to 16 or so, are in a strict private school They were placed there by the state because they were orphans or delinquents Or both one boy killed his abusive parents The headmaster is running experiments to show if damaged kids can be integrated back into society.The school is strict and it regulates their time There is little one on one interaction between the children only incidental contact is allowed The playground is ruled off into zones, allowing only certain kids to interact with each other There is corporal punishment kids are struck for misbehavior.The children aren t told the nature of these experiments, so the three main characters form an alliance to find out what s happening by breaking into offices and looking at official records and teachers notes They plan an ill fated escape in which the older boy and the girl see themselves as parents to the younger boy who is ill, physically and mentally That s basically it There is a lot of philosophical speculation on time, order, and scales of good and better The author puts some pretty big thought into these unformed minds I tried to tell him that time, at the school, was being pulled downward into a spiral Or Time is no law of nature It is a plan When you look at it with awareness, or start to touch it, then it starts to disintegrate There are sections where the author turns academic on us, literally giving us a chapter or so on a brief history of time Lol, and he does refer to Stephen Hawking s book of that name, as well as making references to philosophers such as Kant, Henri Bergson, Bertrand Russell, and others.I had a hard time with the basic premise of the book The author sets it all up as if this social experiment was somehow Nazi ish or Big Brotherish As I read it, I kept thinking of Ishiguro s book, Never Let Me Go, where the kids are being groomed to give their body parts as organ donors Yes, the school is strict but it s nothing beyond what you could still find today in parochial schools in the US And, as for regulating social interaction, as bizarre as it may seem to young people today, I can recall passing from class to class lined up two by two in the hallway in public junior high school NO TALKING allowed in the corridors The purpose of the experiment seemed ok to me too to see if these marginal borderline kids could be integrated back into society I gave it a 3.5 rounded up to 4 I note that it is relatively low rated on GR around 3.7 Photo of Copenhagen from thesavvybackpacker.comPhoto of the author from bbc.co.uk

  2. says:

    Ever since I read Smilla s Sense of Snow years ago, I wanted to read by this author, but none of his books were available at my local library in those days Last year I treated myself to plenty of online buying of used books, and this was one of quite a few Peter H eg titles I purchased It is not an easy book to read The style is complex and a little confusing, with the narrator using I , you , and one interchangeably but always meaning I Once you adapt to that, the reading gets easier, but the theme is still deep, dark, and challenging The narrator is a young orphan, a ward of the Danish state for his entire thirteen or so years He has been in various orphanages and reform schools, but he begins his story while in an academy run by a man named Biehl The narrative flows back and forth as we witness his days in this school and learn gradually of his past We meet Katarina and August, who will become important to him and are the catalysts for everything that happens next And we learn about the borderliners, the children who cannot be classified as A or B but are hovering in between two standard labels How do they see the world The book is riveting, but I will need to reread to fully get it , especially the final chapters which discuss the narrator s theories of time and how Man perceives experiences it That may sound like a topic completely out of left field for this story, but trust me, it is quite relevant and helps to explain a great deal.Overall, a dramatically intense book that for me will be better understood the second time around I hope.

  3. says:

    Peter HoegOnce you have realized that there is no objective external world to be found, that what you know is only a filtered and processed version, then it is only a short step to the thought that, in that case, other people, too, are nothing but a processed shadow.This is the experiment There is no objective reality Whatever we see is edited by our senses, what we see is nothing but our perception of it The world exists because we are looking at it And even other people aren t real, they are edited versions as perceived by faulty senses And if that isn t realwell, then we can look at people as playthings, objects to be molded into a fashion and for a purpose, which also isn t real but fun to play with.And that opens the door to the darkness, to where the monsters come out to fashion human beings into building blocks that can be manipulated in economic and political fashions, towards anything that satisfies the monster s lust for power Nothing is real anyway We are all equal in our unreality, and so the world turns grey, emotions are plasticized versions of whatever ideas we are fed, passion is purely a chemical reaction, there is no such thing as free will, and out there in the real world, buildings rise up and are built of bare concrete, also grey economies are but massive chronological machines of human production and life and death are meaningless They aren t real either And if you think this is allegory, or a fairy tale, take a look at world history Marxism, Communism, Totalitarianism, Fascism the monsters eagerly embrace the experiment and we have only to look at the their results to know the truth of it But much benign versions exist as well, some not so easily recognizable, perhaps smaller stepping stones mixed economies and social democracies towards the same end government plantations, if you will Hoeg in Borderliners explores the one essential step towards mollifying the masses to prepare them to accept the experiment our youth, our educational system where it all begins In short control human beings by controlling space and time The story takes place in Copenhagen s private schools and boarding schools But, it could just as easily have been placed just North, in Sweden, long believed to be the one successful implementation of a social welfare system If you ve read Stieg Larsson s condemnation of Sweden s social policies, if you ve read Mankell, or Nesbo, or just about any Scandinavian crime writer than you will be aware that the world is slowly opening its eyes as to these outright fallacies, as to this idealistic view we have towards Scandinavia The cracks have appeared in the wall and monsters are slipping through High Suicide rates, social experiments on children, castration, uncontrolled immigration and asylum policies and a resultant rise in crime, Alva Myrdal nobel peace prize winner whose name was further tarnished in 1997 when the journalist Maciej Zaremba exposed the darkness at the core of her book from 1934 Crisis in the Population Question which she co authored with her husband It is widely recognized as the founding document of the Swedish welfare state her son publicly condemned Alva her for his upbringing , and of course, the assassination of prime minister Olaf Palmer Swedish version of the JFK assassination all represent a definitive break with naivete.Hoeg s story is about the borderliners, three children in particular borderliners are children who do not fit into the mold as prescribed by population policies To re engage them into society, to assimilate them the children are placed in a private boarding school run by a man named Biehl There, the secret experiment is unleashed upon them.The experiment consists of bringing into the fold, borderliners, and does so by controlling a child s sense of space and time Space is where you are at any one time, strictly regulated by the school and violated by our borderliners as part of their own counter experiment Time is either linear or circular and by assigning linear time to every activity in the school, and circular time to the space students are in at any time, the mind has no time to speculate, to wonder, to innovate anything Life becomes a monotonous, droll existence seemingly one of complete determinism Of course, to my mind, the error Hoeg makes is to imply via our narrator that the solution towards which the borderliners wrestle is different from the school s experiment being conducted In reality, we know this is circular thinking The solution to the experiment, to these three children, is to take the experiment one step further With a nod to Edgar Allen Poe, the pair of ravens that symbolize the school s emblem also symbolize the book s very dark center.And here I ll unleash my criticism of the book Hoeg, unlike Smilla s Sense of Snow which I loved does not seem to be able to decide between writing this as a novel or a memoir It is widely acknowledged that Borderliners is part autobiographical The narrator in the book, in fact, is adopted by a family named Hoeg On the one hand we have long, convoluted dissertations on the notions of time and space, interspersed with philosophical Kantian musings, followed by fledgling plot elements that are constantly broken by the stream of consciousness style You may be interested in both notions, or only one, but in my opinion Hoeg fails in writing one cohesive novel as a result I am giving this book 3 stars, for those reasons.

  4. says:

    Nearly finished Enjoying most of all the peculiar leakage between moments in the textual flow which disturbs any idea of a neat linear process The novel is about the tyranny of time, and has some aphoristic points to make, as would any writer dealing with time as content Neatly done A flatness of delivery, possibly reverberating with the emotional numbness which affects each character in different ways, then standing out here and there an image, or a sentence or two of vivid clarity.The teatise on time towards the end is very bald but succinct accurate too I wonder whether the intention of the theory was to present an exemplar of how coherence itself is not to be trusted, since, although the narrator knows his stuff and shown himself capable of some philosophical analysis, he concludes that in life all such theories are capable of cocurrence The point seems to be that human evil can unintentionally arise from strict adherence, one may say aanologous to a punctillious punctuality, to any system or paradigm as a way of netting humanity Certainly this rather lovely novel celebrates despite its darkness the light of love which howsoever fragile is steady state and eternal than the wreckages as manifested in the downfall of the particular educational conspiracy describe din the book How often we come across the rhetoric of those in power, acting with certainty and with an imperious motivation of bringing the inferior people to the light So eloquent So well intentioned But still somehow totally unrelated to what really happened As though they have had a wonderful, visionary theory about time and children and fellowship.And then strictly isolated from the theory have been the actions they have carried out Time is a problem for us all, perhaps the problem And it can become tyrannical in its application, appropriation rather, by those who in attempting the impossible, for time is being itself, in trying to isolate through the utter limitations of human senses and reason a diagramitical concept of time being , a stability, a certainty, a dead thing, suffer it upon children and the world.

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    When you have children, you find out that you have so much to learn Not all of it makes sense at first One of the things I ve had to learn, was how to praise my child That if your child has climbed high up on top of something and she says look at me , you re not supposed to say oh how good you are but rather, oh look how high you ve climbed You do this to praise the action, not the child itself, so the child doesn t think it has to do such things to have value I think.In part, this novel is about this About how we value each others, how we evaluate children and students It s about three children, Peter, Katarina and August Peter was orphaned at a very early age Katarine has lived through her parents suicides And August has been the offer of so much abuse that he finally snapped and killed his parents They all attend Biehl s Academy, an elite private school in Copenhagen, but something s not quite right All three have lost their parents and especially August are a troubled child A troubled child that doesn t belong in this particular school So why is he there Peter and Katarina quickly discovers that there s a plan with the school, there s a plan with the students accepted to the school, with how the school is run Trouble is, they don t know what the plan is and they are not really allowed to talk with each other so they can figure it out It s pretty clear that it s some kind of social experiment, some kind of attempt to prevent what you can call social darwinism The school wants to take all the children, including the troubled ones, and bring them up and into the light, so to speak, by enforcing a very strict discipline But if you choose a strict principle and stick to it no matter what, the result can be devastating even though your intention was noble in the first place Especially in the school system if you forget that students are individuals and should be treated as such and hitting children never do any good.One of the things Peter and Katarina focuses on, is the question of time How time changes depending on the situation you re in The importance of pauses What lies between the lines How there s never been made a watch that s precise, and what it does to you to have your entire life completely structured and to be punished if you re just a bit late.This novel is slowly paced but then, all of a sudden, things happen Crazy, painful, jarring things that makes you stop and go back and read it again to see if you really read what you think you read And you did and your jaw drops and then, the novel resumes it s slow even pace and things proceed nicely and quietly The chronology is also jumping from various points in the past to the present, making you have to stay focused all the time I think that s one of the reasons the slow pace works in this novel In it s pacing, I think it shows some of the points the narrator, Peter, makes about time How suddenly events happen that change the way we live in time, the way we experience time When these violent events happens in the book, you too are violently dragged into it and have to feel the immediacy of the action Just for a few sentences And then things slow down again and you can relax into the text once One of the things Peter wants to examine is if time moves faster when you re not paying attention and I think the way H eg wrote his book, is an example of this When the jarring events occur, time stops for a little while you are forced to focus and pay attention, and then, you read one and time starts flowing by again.One thing I really love about this novel is the relationship between the grown Peter and his small daughter How he has a hard time relating to her because of the abuse he has suffered throughout his life, the way the system failed him and he was too old before he had proper role models But together, they find a common ground and she, perhaps, helps him most of all by just being a child, being pure feeling and reaction She tries to bring order to her universe by listing all words she knows She doesn t get time at first no children do so she tries to understand it through other subjects that she does know I think this relationship between father and daughter are beautifully rendered in it s fragility.The narrator in this book is named Peter H eg, the same as the author Every school and institution the narrator Peter H eg talks about in his novel excluding Biehl s Academy, are real and Peter H eg has stated that the novel was the most autobiographical of his works at that point When it was published, it was taken as an attack on the Danish school system from a man who had experienced the worst of it himself But later, Peter H eg reveals that the adoptive parents in the novel are in fact his real parents, that the only autobiographical elements in the book are his first and last name, his year of birth and his parents Which means that the novel is about him but at the same time, that it s not necessarily about him at all Peter H eg has never lived anywhere else than with his biological parents Even though he claimed in interviews that where the institutions were real, the events taking place were also real But with the case of the fictive Peter H eg getting punished by having his head stuck down in a toilet, that did happen just not to him and so on.The things that did happen, are instead the things that take place on the fictive school Biehl s Academy is called Bordings Friskole in the real world and here the author went to school for nine years and how the teachers hit the students on a regular basis and that Peter was kicked out of school at age 16, is true among other things.This means, that this book is a blur between fiction and reality There used to be a sort of agreement between readers and authors that either everything in a novel was true or else, it was false, fiction This agreement is no longer in existence Now authors take parts of their life or others lives, and use it as they see fit In Denmark, we have seen several examples of this And it seem to make some people angry on the point of law suits and of people being persecuted in the medias, loosing their jobs etc Peter H eg does it in this novel other examples are Knud Romer s novel Den Som Blinker Er Bange For D den and J rgen Leth Det uperfekte menneske apparently, neither of these has been translated to English.For me, I love this play on reality I think that this challenges the novel and explores the possibilities of combining fiction and reality in ways that we have never seen before It doesn t diminish the worth of the novel in any way Rather, it s the authors s attempt to express themselves and their creativity and vision in ways they see fit And Peter H eg does this so very well in De m ske egnede which by the way is a much appropriate title than the English Borderliners since the Danish title plays on Darwin s expression of survival of the fittest.

  6. says:

    Mi sono svegliato di notte, la bambina si scoperta, non so se aveva troppo caldo o paura di essere imprigionata Le ho coperto solo le gambe, cos almeno non avr freddo E se fosse colta dalla disperazione potr liberarsi in un attimo Poi non sono pi riuscito a dormire, sono rimasto seduto al buio a guardarle, la bambina e la donna E allora il sentimento diventato troppo grande Non n dolore n gioia, il peso, la pressione di essere stato introdotto nella loro vita, e di sapere che essere separato da loro significherebbe l annientamento L ho letto solo la sera, poche pagine alla volta, poche perch stato inevitabile il dover leggere e rileggere la stessa frase, poche perch ho potuto accogliere tutto questo dolore solo in piccole dosi, un piccolo boccone alla volta, poche perch per ogni frase stato necessario che io mi fermassi per qualche minuto per essere in grado di affrontare quella successiva.Gli aggettivi li tralascio, bello, bellissimo, doloroso etcce ne sarebbero cos tantima preferisco il silenzio, si accorda a quello che ho ricevuto da questa lettura.PS grazie cara amica

  7. says:

    CapolavoroQuando chi ama leggere si imbatte in un libro come questo, si sente come se fosse stato baciato dalla fortuna Un passaggio, tra i moltissimi indimenticabili Il tempo lineare inevitabile, uno dei modi per restare aggrappati al passato, come punti su una linea, la battaglia di Poitiers, Lutero a Wittenberg, la decapitazione di Struensee nel 1772 Anche quello che scrivo qui, questa parte della mia vita, ricordato in questo modo Ma non l unico La coscienza ricorda anche campi, passaggi fluidi, relazioni che uniscono quello che successo una volta con quello che succede ora, senza considerare il corso del tempo E nel punto pi lontano del passato la coscienza ricorda una pianura senza tempo Se si cresce in un mondo che permette e premia una sola forma di ricordo, allora viene esercitata una costrizione contro la nostra natura Allora si viene lentamente spinti verso l orlo del precipizio

  8. says:

    Understanding is something one does best when one is on the borderline, Hoeg writes in this book That wisdom can be applied to borderlines of all kinds, and the borderliners who straddle them In this novel the border is primarily between the adult and adolescent worlds, which is inhabited by children at boarding schools, but also by the staff Some of these adults are misfits, teetering on the border of mental illness No child in their right mind would want to grow up if it means emulating the behaviors and attitudes of these models of adulthood Being Borderline also describes a modern personality disorder Emotional instability is one of its key components, along with extreme moodiness and a tendency towards black and white thinking The staff who enjoy beating the children are moody and emotional unstable, and black and white thinking is definitely being advocated at this boarding school where the most vulnerable youngsters are being indoctrinated in cruelty, prejudice, conflict, control and other disorders of the dominant modern Danish culture which Hoeg is criticizing in this book Tho i read it years ago, I was mesmerized by this story and haven t forgotten its emotional impact although the details have faded I ve searched for, and can t find the quote online, about the beating of children, and what happens to those who ve done this for a long time, without remorse or reflection Having been beaten myself as a child, I reflected upon it for a long time, and decided not to pass on to my own children that lesson of violence my father eschewed when he d say might makes right I suspect I m like Hoeg, who d advocate that right makes might Having also been to a European boarding school in Switzerland 1968 1970 , i wanted to review my own experiences through the lens of Peter s intelligence, and he did not disappoint I LOVED his Smila s Sense of Snow novel and will continue to read everything he writes.

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    I d liked Smilla s Sense of Snow, so thought I d try Hoeg s next book Dark and frightening, it is the fictional tale although there are big hints of autobiography of Peter, without parents, in and out of various Danish schools for children in abnormal circumstances, without families, without supposed normal intelligence Turns out that Biehl s Academy, where time and space are clearly defined and monitored, is actually part of a Big Deal to weed out darkness abnormality in humanity Peter is close only to August and Katarina and they plot their escape and revenge on the academy with mixed results.Much ado, too, about time its nature and scope and philosophers take on time from Newton and Kant to Einstein Linear or circular or something else Or combined Hoeg also muses on the curious fate of mankind and likens it to a spider s web Spiders have few sensory attachments, but they build webs suited to their ability to care for them, unlike human counterparts Provocative analogy and metaphor.

  10. says:

    First time, in a very long time, that I ve felt the need to underline passagesI ve kept my pencil by my side Looking forward to Peter H eg.

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